While you build your business, creating connections and community is an integral part of success. Community is two-fold: connections with your clients and connections for your business. While independence and self-direction is a mainstay of coaching businesses, it is important to have community as well. It can be tempting, or you may even feel pressured, to do everything alone, to figure everything out yourself. But a powerful support system cannot be overemphasized. We all need one another to succeed.

Understanding what kind of community is right for you is key. Not every community meets the needs of every coach. In this episode, I share my thoughts and advice, and I ask four members of The Coaching Collective for theirs. We talk about makes a community fit each of us and give you a taste of what our Coaching Collective community is like. I hope this will help you choose the right one for you.

What You’ll Learn

  • Thoughts from the book The Art of Community: Seven Principles for Belonging by Charles Vogl
    • Shared values
    • Mutual concern for one another’s welfare
    • Insider understanding
  • What about the community has impacted you the most?
    • Clarity, values, and staying grounded to them
    • I found I needed community when I thought I didn’t
    • A sense of home
    • Giving myself permission to slow down
    • Safety and support in personal vulnerability, cognitive growth and emotional grounding
  • What is the most practical, tangible way the community has helped move you forward?
    • Upleveling my coaching
    • Seeing my own growth and that there isn’t just one way to do things
    • Able to take what I’ve learned and help others
    • Help in goal setting, staying on-track and following through
    • Tool awareness and sharing for creation
    • Continuing momentum
  • Whether you’re extroverted or introverted, what has been your experience in the group?
    • Hang back if you want, but feeling safe to participate when you’re ready
    • Permission to show up and be vulnerable or just listen in if you want, no pressure
    • Access to both large groups and calls, and your small group and calls
    • Value of individuality
    • Choices of mediums to get help or have questions answered

Contact Info and Recommended Resources


The Art of Community: Seven Principles for Belonging
Author: Charles Vogl

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Molly Claire: Welcome to the Masterful Coach Podcast with Molly Claire, where coaches learn skill mastery, business mastery, and Life Mastery at a whole new level. If you’re ready to create a meaningful coaching business that makes a difference, you’re in the right place. And now your host, Master coach instructor, Molly Claire.

Hey, coaches, I have a treat for you today, I’m going to be introducing you to some amazing human beings and coaches who I love and adore from our community, and we’re going to be talking about community, and specifically what that means for you as a coach, building your business. Also what that means for you, as you create relationships, and community and connection with your clients.

So the focus of this will be two-fold, I really want you to think about this in terms of you, as a business owner, and for your clients. And community is something that is so important, I think we don’t realize how important it is, especially as Business Builders, as coaches who are very independent, who want to take ownership of our life. And oftentimes we think we can do it on our own, we should do it on our own; but the truth is that a powerful support system cannot be overemphasized. It matters who you spend your time with. And in this episode, I talk a little bit more about how to really understand what kind of community is right for you.

Now, the way that I’ve done this format is I talk a little bit about community and some of the important things within community, and I’m also giving you a chance to hear from some of our members. Now it’s no secret that Coaching Collective enrollment is open, and that is why I am sharing this right now both to inspire you and help you all to understand what to look for in community. And also for you to get a taste of what our community is like because the truth is, not every community is right for everyone.

There are certain communities that are very powerful and have amazing mentors and leaders, and yet some of those are ones that I would not be a part of, because they don’t connect with me. And so I don’t think community is a one size fits all, as you’ll hear in this episode. So those of you listening, we want to give you a taste and help you understand what it’s like. I’ve got Crystal Hansen, Christine Rucker, Penny Rogers, and Pamela Hughes, all of whom have a very different experience, different personalities, extrovert versus introvert, and all of them have a little bit different story. And so I wanted you to be inspired by them, learn from them, I just don’t think we can have enough inspiration from amazing coaches around us.

So that’s what we’re going to do. And by the way, those of you that are interested in joining the Collective, this is truly your last chance. We only open enrollment twice a year, and the doors are closing October 3rd. So if you’re interested, pause this episode right now, make sure that you go to the coachingcollective.com fill out your application, so that you do not miss out because the doors are open. And we are just so excited to invite this next group, work with our members, connect with them, and just help you as you support your business. All right, let’s dive in. I can’t wait to introduce you to these amazing women. Let’s go!

Hey, everyone, I’m so excited to be here on the podcast with you today. I’ve got Christine, and Crystal and Penny and Pamela who are all in our Coaching Collective Mastermind, and program and community some version of it, and I’m really excited to talk with you about this episode. So say hi, everyone first, say hello.

All: Hello.

Molly Claire: Great! I picked on these members of our community because they all have a little bit different experience in the mastermind. And I also, as some of you know, wanted to reach out and find out what it’s like as someone who’s maybe a little more quiet or a little more introverted in the mastermind so that people can understand what it’s like in our community. So I’m going to be asking all of these members some questions, and you’re going to get to know them.

Before I talk about it, I wanted to reference a couple of things. There is an amazing book called The Art of Community by Charles Vogel. And this is a book that I love Aimee and I in the Collective have really taken it on as a project to think about how we want to create the best community. And this book really talks about the value of people having community, feeling a part of a community in our lives, and for our well being, and certainly as we grow our businesses as well. So I wanted to just highlight a couple of things in this book to get everyone thinking.

Those of you listening, you have a coaching business of some kind. And my hope is today that as we talk about this experience in the Coaching Collective community, you think about what your community is like.


Meaning as you’re building your business, who are the people that are surrounding you? Where do you feel like you’re a part of a tribe? And so that’s one thing. And the other thing I think is so important is, as you’re all building coaching businesses, your business will look a little bit different, but how are you possibly creating the sense of community for your clients? Are there ways if you’re working with them one on one, how are you helping them to feel a part of a community in one way or another. I hope this will serve both aspects for those of you listening today.

Okay, so the first thing I want to talk about in the book, this is one of the things that it talks about, that we definitely have taken on in the Collective and part of the reason by the way that we’re focusing on that those of you listening know by now that we’re opening enrollment for the Coaching Collective on September 24th, and so we really want to help people who are thinking about it and are on the fence have an understanding of what the program is like.

Okay, so in the book, one of the things that highlights in communities is the importance of shared values. And in the Coaching Collective, we talk with our clients about identifying their personal values. So there’s that sense of individual values and priorities among our members, and if you take a look at that, at like a high level, we value in our community individuality. One of the things we value; one of our shared values for everyone in the Coaching Collective is we want to honor and help one another, find out what they value, what their priorities are, and support one another, in maintaining those.

So in the book, it talks about it says tribes are people who share certain values, even if they’re in different places, or aren’t connected yet. These values may show up in shared interest activities or life choices, tribes want to be connected. They want to be around people who understand them. So for those of you listening, as you’re building your business, where do you have that? Where are you connected with your tribe with people who understand you? And how does that support you? And when you think about people that you’re helping in your business, whether it’s helping people lose weight, or helping people through divorce, or helping people with whatever your niche is, how are you helping them to create for themselves that sense of community, or how are you helping to create that for them with your coaching program?

Okay, I want to talk about a couple more things, then I’m going to let you guys meet these amazing women that I have here. It talks about in this book, also, that a community is defined as a group of individuals who share a mutual concern for one another’s welfare, and I think this is such a big deal. And in fact, I want to pause on this. I’m just going to throw this out there to my members here listening. I would love to know your experience. I assume all of you have experienced that sense in our community. Yes, that everyone is there to support one another. So I’d love to hear from some of you. I would love to hear either an example of where you experienced that maybe what it’s like in your small group, how have you felt that sense of mutual concern for one another’s welfare? Tell me all about it. Yes, Christine.

Christine Rucker: So I see this so much in my small accountability group, because we are very vested in each other’s business and each other as people. So each week, we’re talking about what’s coming up for us, and what we’re working on, and there’s so much brainstorming and coaching, that you really feel like their business is your business. And I really feel like they care as much about my business as I care about theirs too.

Molly Claire: Yes. I love it. I don’t have the privilege of being in those small groups with you guys. But I see on Slack and I hear you all and I see the way you cheer each other on it almost does become a part of your own goal and mission to see the other person succeed.

Christine Rucker: Yeah absolutely!

Molly Claire: It’s funny because like, even Aimee and I, in our business partnership, we both have different reasons for our business and different things that we want to create, and we really have to be invested in the other person’s why even as partners, right?

Christine Rucker: Yeah, so true.

Molly Claire: So all right, anyone else have anything to comment, yeah, Crystal?

Crystal Hansen: One of them that is actually pretty new for me that I have always loved the community and being a part of Slack and being on calls. We had a pretty major surgery going on with my son and I received coaching on it, but the flood of love and concern from all of the coaches in the community brought me to tears on multiple times. But even the day of the surgery, the messages that flooded into my dm on Slack;


And the love that people were sending out to me, I really, truly felt so blessed to be a part of a community of coaches that not only were invested in what we were doing in the Collective as far as coaching in business, but my own personal life and helping me in that moment. Whether it was, hey, if you need a friend or a coach, or somebody to be there for you before or after or during, we’ve got you and it just felt like this unbelievable army of loving people behind me and supporting me, and that was huge for me.

Molly Claire: Yeah, yes. Oh, my Gosh, I love it. And I think that that’s why in the Collective we talk about business, but our personal life is one of our major pillars of what we want to support you in because our life and our business is not isolation from everything else. So yeah, our community is amazing. So yeah, Pamela.

Pamela Hughes: We were talked about how the community has mutual concern for each other’s well being. I see that come out, and so many of our coaching calls when coaches are getting coached on either their personal life or on their business, or having a struggle with a client, we all as a community are like, concerned and helping for their well being. There’s no judgement, that’s the one thing that has been so valuable to me in this community is it’s like, not only do you celebrate the individuality of coaches, but it’s respected, and it’s not judged. And so it is so supported in that sense, and so being there for each other in the community, in that sense, has been so valuable for me to witness to be a part of, and I think that that’s something that’s very unique to the program that you and Aimee have put together.

Molly Claire: Yeah, oh my Gosh, it’s so true. I feel like we’ll have a coaching call where we’re all in there. And then on Slack, I see people popping in like, ‘Hey, I wanted to send you some love, or I had another insight for you, or keep us posted on how this goes,’ so there’s that follow up, and jus that genuine concern for one another in business and personal life. Yes, I love it. Okay, I wanted to mention one more thing, and then I actually do want to have you all officially introduce yourself and say who you are and what your focus is.

So the last thing I want to talk about is just there are these bullet points in this book talking about some of the features in a community. And it includes shared values, which we’ve talked about, membership identity, that sense of identifying how they identify as being a member of this community. Moral prescriptions, which again, we’ve talked about, some of the things I would say in the Collective that are mutual, are things like a business where you are making a difference. Integrity is something I hear a lot, meaning behind a business, and really a commitment to each individual’s own values, as I had mentioned.

And then the other thing it talks about is insider understanding. And I think we can all relate to this, when you feel a part of this community, and you almost have your little language of the things you talk about, and this kind of happens naturally. So those of you that do have group programs, some of the things you teach end up being things that people reference and you have this like little code word for things that you talk about. We obviously have that in our community, too.

Before I have these ladies introduce themselves, I want to just reiterate again, as you’re listening to this, think about how do I have this in my life? What communities am I a part of that really connect with my values and what I want? How do I create this for myself, and again, thinking from a coach perspective, how you can help your clients figure out how to have that community, whether through you, or others? Okay, I’m just going to go around and pick on each of you, Crystal, tell us about who you are, and what your focus is in your business?

Crystal Hansen: I am crystal Hansen, and I am a life coach and I help family members of addicts heal and set healthy boundaries in their relationships so that they can create really strong relationships with themselves and other people. And I’m also a contracted coach actually work for the Collective part time and then I also work for another coach as well.

Molly Claire: Yeah, so awesome. We love having you in the Collective and I think your niche, I feel like it’s an underserved population and people who have experienced that right away when they hear what you’re saying, understand those needs so well and I think they feel a little alone in that because unless you’ve experienced it, you don’t really know what it feels like. So I just love that you’re serving that population.

Crystal Hansen: I like it too.

Molly Claire: All right, Christine, hello, tell us about you?

Christine Rucker: Hi, I’m so happy to be here. My name is Christine Rucker and I am a weight coach.


I’ve created a program with the help of the Coaching Collective, and I’m so incredibly proud of it. It’s called Be the Boss Weight Loss, and so I do one on one coaching and I also do group. Losing 80 pounds myself, it’s just so easy to really help these people because I know exactly what they’re going through. So it’s a passion. I feel like it’s been my life. So it’s just very natural for me to do this.

Molly Claire: Yes, I love it. And I know you’ve pushed yourself to do things in your business that don’t feel as natural in ways of putting yourself out there, but…

Christine Rucker: Yes, exactly. And I was thinking about that earlier, like all of the progress that I’ve made, just because of the support and community that I put myself in, and the Coaching Collective and the mastermind, have just really, I’ve grown so much faster. I think that I would have just tried to do this on my own.

Molly Claire: I think it’s true. I think a lot of people have that thought I should be able to do this on my own, and it’s kind of like, why?

Christine Rucker: Exactly and I don’t know if it was you or Aimee, but it’s like what if it doesn’t have to be this hard? And that’s where I feel like I am right now. Coaching for me, it’s just become so much easier, and helping my clients is just so much easier and it’s been wonderful.

Molly Claire: I love it. Love it. Okay, Penny, tell us about you? Your situation is a little unique, because you’re not really actively building that business right now. So I love that because your experience in the Collective is a little different. So tell us?

Penny Rogers: Yeah, sure. Yeah, I’m Penny Rogers, and I am a life coach, and currently contracting with the Life Coach School. I do one on one coaching and I coach with clients from all over the world and it is just the most incredible experience. When they come on, I have no idea what topic they’re going to bring to me. So I have to be ready for whatever comes my way, and I just love that experience. I love the pace of it. I love the privilege of just coming into so many different people’s lives from all over the world on a daily basis. And it’s just been really incredible.

I also have a background in social work. I’m also a licensed master social worker. And it was through that experience that really kind of nudged me into coaching because the wonderful tools that I use there, that I saw were so beneficial for individuals in therapy. It also gave me a desire to have something to offer to those who don’t particularly need therapy, but just want to up level their life. And so I discovered life coaching and I thought ‘Yes! This is where I want to be.’ And so it’s just been a fantastic experience.

Molly Claire: Love it. And I think just any you guys listening can hear from your voice Penny is just so soft and inviting and connecting. And I think about as you were talking about how you don’t really know what people are bringing to you. I know it’s not quite the same as community but I feel like you have such a gift to connect with people and create that like instant connection and sense of like, I’m okay here this person is like with me and understands me.

Penny Rogers: Absolutely yes, and that is something that I highly value. Because when you’re on it 20 or 40 minute call with someone you haven’t met before, you want that instant connection they’re coming on, they could be bringing something that they feel very vulnerable about. And so you want to instantly help them to feel like they’re in a safe space where they’re not going to be judged, where they’re accepted. And I just love being able to create that sense of belonging for them as quickly as possible so that we can get on with what they’re presenting and what they need help with that day, and it’s just amazing how that actually works out in such a beautiful way.

Molly Claire: Yes, love it; so glad to have you here. Pamela, tell us about you?

Pamela Hughes: Well, I am Pamela Hughes and I work with people who are stuck in life. So while I was in the Coaching Collective, I created my Unstuck Your Life program, and it is for individuals who just work with people who either know what they want, but they just don’t know how to get it. Or they don’t know what they want; they just know that they can’t stay here. And I’ve identified with that because that’s been my situation in life. And so I work with people who have a lot of accolades and on the outside, they look like they should be super happy. But on the inside, there’s something that’s missing.

Molly Claire: Yes, love it. And I think that it is really fascinating how we make so many judgments and opinions about what we see on the outside of people in general, right?


And so yeah, I think I love that, because they probably relate to that, like people think this on the outside, but inside doesn’t quite feel that way.

Pamela Hughes: And there’s also a lot of judgment like why aren’t I happy? I should be happy because I have this, I should be happy because I achieved that. I’m not; so what’s wrong with me? And so there’s a lot of work to be done there. So that’s what I focus on.

Molly Claire: Love it. Awesome. Okay, so I have these amazing women here. Like I said, they all bring a little bit something different, and I want to have them just share a little bit about how the community has impacted them in the collective and the mastermind. So those of you listening, the way it works is you do the Coaching Collective signature program, and then you’ll have the opportunity to join the mastermind. So what that means is after you’ve kind of got that foundation of self trust, confidence, clarity, and everything that you’re doing, we just go all into goal setting, supporting one another, and really having that growth. So first, I would love to hear from all of you, women, what you have found to be the most impactful for you and being a part of our community? So we’ll just go around, and we’d love to hear your thoughts on it. Yeah, Christine.

Christine Rucker: So for me, what was most impactful was helping me get clear on what I wanted my life to look like, and how is my business going to fit into that? And really getting clear on the values that I have, and working around that, and then the community really keeping me grounded to that; always bringing me back. What are you really trying to create here? And is this in line with your values? It just made everything so much simpler to see. It took away a lot of confusion for me.

Molly Claire: Yeah because I think a lot of times in communities or mastermind or groups where you’re building a business, everyone can kind of have an agenda for you. Like, this should be your goal. This should be where you’re headed, and I really think here the only agenda is like, what do you want? Make sure you’re being true to what you want and the life you want, and the business you want.

Christine Rucker: Yeah, and then just having them check in on you like, is this truly what you want? Is this the direction they want to go? It seems like you have a lot of resistance around that. So having the eyes on you, and really checking in with you has just been so incredibly impactful for me.

Molly Claire: Yeah, and especially like in that small group setting where you have the format you go through every week checking in with each other on how they’re doing. So, I love it, awesome. Yeah, Pamela.

Pamela Hughes: I kind of have a bit of a different approach here. Because once I got out of the Coaching Collective, I needed a little bit of space. I had been in community and programs through the certification through applied coaching, and then the Coaching Collective, that I just needed some time to kind of find out, who I was without all these other voices around me. And I was looking forward to that time and I thought that I’m good. I don’t really need community right now. And so I was looking forward to that time away with the intention of joining the mastermind at a later date, because I got so much value out of the Coaching Collective. I just needed to push pause for a little while.

And I’m really glad that I did because I’ve always thought of myself as an independent person, and while I have community in my personal life with like, the friends and even building my business, I have some small entrepreneurs that I work with. What I realized in that time away, was how much I needed community. I never saw myself as someone who was a community person and I needed to be in a group of people of likeminded, I’ve been like, ‘No, I’m good. I got it. I can do this on my own.’ And it was a lot harder on my own. Yes, I had the support of family and friends and other business owners who were doing their thing and loving me and supporting me.

But with the Coaching Collective, and with the mastermind, you talked a little bit, Aimee about like, inside understanding. My husband doesn’t have the inside or understanding, my friends don’t have the inside or understanding. The other business owners who do different industries don’t have that inside or understanding. So while they’re all trying to help and be supportive, and we do have the shared values, they don’t understand what it’s like to build a coaching business. So to be around a community of individuals who on some levels are more successful and other levels working right where I was, it gives me an opportunity to learn so much from everybody in that community, and whether they’re so much further ahead, whatever that means, or just kind of coming up a little bit behind. 


There’s always something to learn from wherever anybody is in their journey, and that part of the community has been tremendous in my own growth.

Molly Claire: I love that you shared that because I remember that when you came to the Mastermind, it was like, ‘Oh, she’s coming home, she’s coming back.’ And I remember you saying, like, ‘I forgot how much I need this and how much I love it.

Pamela Hughes: Yeah, what was really cool and enlightening for me is, through the coaching Collective you guys offer your monthly coaching call, and so while I wasn’t in one of your programs, I was still attending those because I got so much value…

Molly Claire: Oh, the free calls that we do; the monthly calls.

Pamela Hughes: Yeah, and I had missed the first one when I was out, and I got the second one. And it was incredible. You were the one coaching. And I got on the call and you just started talking and coaching and teaching and I was like, ‘I’m home. I’m home.’ It felt good, because there are so many different places to learn as a coach, there are so many different programs and courses and voices and amazing people in this industry. But when you find the people you connect with, when you find the community that feels like home, man, you’re going to latch on to it. So I’m so happy to be back.

 Molly Claire: I love it. Okay, I want to highlight a couple things that you said, because it’s kind of that shared values thing, right? Like, the people in our community are here because they are all in on supporting everyone in their individual goals and what they want, right? So there is that sense of being home from those shared values. And I also think part of the reason that so many of our members say that is that part of our culture, is helping you go back to you, right? Look inside trust, you figure out what you want, what you think. And I think that is a significant part of that coming home, because like home is us. Like for each of you. 

o I think it’s twofold. I think it’s, we have the shared values in the community, and part of that being going back to you and checking and word, I think it just it creates that sense of being home. So I love it. And I wanted to mention one other thing, because Pamela, you said, I’ve always considered myself to be very independent, and I totally relate. I’m so independent, right? And I can just like do things on my own. It’s just I don’t know, it’s always been in me. And I think it can be easy to forget the importance of relying on other people. And I personally have been trying to remind myself of that lately, and opening up and connecting with people and having that support. Because even though we think we don’t need it, we kind of do, right?

Pamela Hughes: But it was so valuable to take that time away, and learn that for myself, because it was a struggle. I’m not going to sit here and tell you it was easy. It was a struggle when I didn’t have that community. And I still value that struggle, because it’s so shifted my perspective on what it was I wanted and what it was I needed. And it was such a valuable shift and one that I know moving forward is going to have a huge impact on my coaching business.

Molly Claire: Yes.Oh, totally. Yes, I love it. And I know, Pamela, she called me Aimee, if you’re wondering if Aimee’s is on, she isn’t. The reason I’m saying this is because it’s not going to be the first time our parents call us different names. Those of you who don’t know, we’re sisters. So we’re just used to it, we just I respond to either one. All right, Crystal.

Crystal Hansen: I think for me, the biggest, impactful part of this community has been permission. And I know that everyone’s kind of spooked on this a little bit, but giving myself permission to slow down and to make sure I’m aligning. And the freedom that comes from having a program that enables you to be able to create this unique business to yourself, which I love, but the guidance that comes from you both, it makes it so that freedom really does work to be able to because I always have those reminders of when I’m overwhelmed or when I feel like I’m stuck, I’m taking on too much. It’s that slow down. And just find that alignment, find those values, find the things that I think are the most important, and that’s when I can create the most gains. And the other thing that I wanted to speak to as well as versus community is my creativity thrives when I hear other people being creative in theirs, because it gets my brain going and when I hear how other people are tailoring their programs or their teaching or their concepts to how they’re going to do it. It gets my brain going so that I can take that and say okay, I can apply this with me the people that I’m teaching or the community that I’m in.


It really does help create this uniqueness of how I show up as a coachas well. 

Molly Claire: Yeah, oh, I love it. Okay, Penny, I’d love to hear from you to what the biggest impact of the community is like for you?

Penny Rogers: Well, it’s been amazing. My background is kind of unique in that over 30 years of my life, I was actually in a cult. And that was such a different experience of community where it was more fear based where there was this common consciousness of beliefs and even daily activities in life that coming out of that, for me, there was obviously a lot of cognitive work that that needed to be done, a lot of emotional work to be done that is an ongoing process. Of course, being a part of the Life Coach School going through certification in the AC track being part of those groups was a wonderful thing. But my focus was so much on just learning the material, learning how to help others that I didn’t really embrace the community part of that. I think there was still a part of me that didn’t feel like it was safe to be a part of a community because before it had been something that didn’t end up being a good thing for me. And so by the time I got to the Coaching Collective, I was still a little wary of community but just coming into it and just being embraced with so much love and acceptance and the emphasis on developing my own individuality because part of me was comes into a group and I’m like, “Okay, how do I have to act in this group to be accepted?”

It’s like I still want to be me on the inside but it’s like okay, what do I have to do to be accepted and to have that individuality not only celebrated but encouraged to understand that that is the uniqueness of me, is really my best tool and going forward and helping others and developing myself as a coach and even as a possible business one day that I might want to develop. And so that was usually impactful for me to just come into a community and to be in a place in my life, where I was ready to just relax into being myself and to be in an atmosphere of such excellence of other coaches and you and Aimee and just the warmth and just the opening up in my own mind to be embraced and to allow myself to be vulnerable. That had a huge impact on me coming into this group.

Molly Claire: I really appreciate you sharing your personal story and that background because I know it does give you kind of a unique view on community and mentioning that sense of a little bit of fear of partly like how am I supposed to act right what’s acceptable and also I don’t know you didn’t speak to this but I know for me I’ve even felt this way at times like wanting to make sure I don’t get lost in the community way of thinking and I don’t know,I would imagine there had to have been a little bit of that there for you.

Penny Rogers: Sure. Yeah. It’s been interesting coming out of that mindset that I was in and just seeing how I respond in group situations and yeah, that hesitancy there but also I hear others speak sometimes about coaching and the masterminds and different things and like is this a call? And my go to thought is okay not all cults are the same I know there’s differences here but with my college experience, it’s all about you have to do one way, believe one thing but to come in — and I think I probably have my guard up a little bit because I’m watching for that. I’m like, okay, what’s gonna be expected of me here because as soon as they try to tell me how I’m supposed to think and be, I’m out of here right?

Molly Claire: Yeah, absolutely.

Penny Rogers: So, so to see that how the individuality is celebrated and how you can come together, I love what you said, Molly, how you can come together in a sense of community and really respect one another’s values. What’s important to the each individual and even though there may be differences there, there is still just this beautiful connection of respecting one another for that very thing for the uniqueness of each other.

Molly Claire: Yeah, and hopefully that’s made it a safer place for you to open up to community knowing that we’re always like sending you back to you;


And allowing you to stay grounded in you, it’s like supported by those around you but grounded in you instead of like taken over by those around you.

Penny Rogers: Absolutely yes I agree 100%.

Molly Claire: Love it I’m so glad you shared that. Okay I wanted to ask you all to, so we’ve talked about we kind of touched on this right in your businesses but if you were to say in the most practical tangible way of how you believe the collective has helped move you forward in your business or for you Penny moved you forward within what you’re doing with coaching like what is the most practical tangible thing you would say you attribute to the community? Everyone’s thinking who’s going to do it first? Penny, yes.

Penny Rogers: Yeah, so I think for me it’s been the up leveling of my coaching skills because obviously as a contracted coach, I’m coaching more than I’m developing content or product, that kind of thing. So specifically, to be in an atmosphere of such excellence with you and Aimee being master coaches and so many other experienced coaches and just getting the feedback from different ones and then being able to experience other coaches and their perspectives and to think, oh they went this direction, I might not have thought of that or even for me it was, oh wow, I can see my own growth here because I used to would hurt another coach and felt maybe jealous that oh, I wouldn’t have thought to did it that way they’re doing it right or better. 

It’s like no, I can see that, yeah, I can have a different perspective and I don’t have to be jealous of anyone else I’m just learning and absorbing and even seeing the growth that I’ve had, it’s like I’ve dared myself to think that okay, just because a master coach did it this way, I probably would have went this direction and it’s really good too right? Raising that confidence, that to me has been very impactful. Being in this space

Molly Claire: Yeah, I think that permission to go different ways to have different approaches I think that is part of what expands your ability to coach for sure. And that was one of the things that when Aimee and I designed the Collective it’s like okay, one liter is great, but when we you can have one, two and then a team of mentor coaches, who have different approaches and then when we bring in other approaches in the mastermind it truly gives you variety and different perspectives and I think it’s the best thing. And the other thing I wanted to ask you Penny, hopefully you have a good answer to this since we’re like live and everyone’s hearing this. 

I am so curious because you and also we have other coaches now that have been in the Collective who are contracted coaches and they’re really in the program to up-level their coaching skills and be a part of the community and that’s really the reason and I believe like I perceive just even the content that we do and talking about the things we share about how they up-level thinking in their business I can see that that will totally apply to how you help your clients too.So even separate from the master your coaching calls, have you found those content calls to be helpful in you up leveling and expanding your coaching with coaches that you work with?

Penny Rogers: Oh 100% and the beautiful thing is where I am a contracted coach and working with so many different individuals, I coach so many who are building their own businesses. And so for me it’s just been incredible to have this training. Like I’m absorbing all of it because I can’t tell you how many times like I’m in a training on these elevation weeks where we’re learning different skills, especially about building a business where immediately the next day I’m able to take that into a coaching call and be able to help somebody else who’s in that space. Maybe not particularly to give advice but to understand the mindset and to be able to pinpoint areas where they may be holding themselves back, absolutely been incredible in that way that this is part of the training.

Molly Claire: Good. Love it. Okay, Christine, tell us about you.

Christine Rucker: So for me what was incredible is that we do our quarterly workshops as a community, how we do it all together. And that was huge for me first of all, because I didn’t really even know how to do it. And I don’t know that I wouldn’t be able to do it on my on my own. And just hearing like different goal setting methods and different goals that other people have for themselves really just kind of opened my eyes to what’s possible, and really helps to keep me on track. 


So that I can track my goals and all the framework that you guys give us. And then again, taking that to my accountability group, and having that community really support me, in my followthrough. 

Molly Claire: Yes. And with those workshops, we change some things every time, but we try to keep some pieces of it the same, right? Because it’s like, okay, you do it once and you do an okay job with it. And then you do it again, and you’ve got it a little better and a little better. So the goal is, you guys sharpen that skill, while also adding a little bit of variety so that it’s not boring and the same thing.

Christine Rucker: Oh my god, they’re phenomenal. I look forward to them every time. And it’s definitely top of mine now, and I don’t know that I would have had that on my own, stay focused on likekeep my focus.

Molly Claire: Yes, yeah. It seems like such an obvious thing. We do our business and we just like, well, I’ll do this, I’ll do this and we feel productive. But are we really like setting and following a plan?

Christine Rucker: Exactly. And that the Collective and the mastermind, like, we really do have processes that help us stay on track. And then when you add in the community, the slack, the accountability groups, the peer groups, it’s a package.

Molly Claire: Yeah. So awesome. All right, Pamela? 

Pamela Hughes: Yeah,the practical and the tangible and coaching is so much about, like thinking and beliefs, and where’s your mind? And sometimes I just want tools. Sometimes especially when you’re building a business, you just need some tools. And so there’s been so much value, especially in that slack community, where you’re like, “Okay, I’m doing this project, I’m working on this program, but I need help with this.” And I still remember in the Coaching Collective, we were building worksheets. And I was like, oh, my goodness, building worksheets, like doing worksheets, this is going to be a lot of work. And someone suggested a template from someone. And I’m like, “All right, let me go check it out.” It was amazing. It was an amazing tool to use that allowed me tomove further faster. And so to be in a community of coaches, who, again, are doing the same thing that you are, that may already have a tool or have a suggestion, and allows you not to recreate the wheel, it’s to look for the best practices out there. And to lean on each other in order to get those has been extremely valuable.

Molly Claire: Yeah. Oh, I love it. And I think like, even the flow of like, okay, elevation week, we’re learning this week we’re creating this week, every other week, you’re creating in the Collective. And then in the mastermind, it’s like, here’s the plan, we’re moving forward. So hopefully, like the tangible things we give, and also, the mindset work that we do just moves you forward right to building so love it. Crystal, so what about you?

Crystal Hansen: I love that you just said the creation and consumption part because that was a huge, tangible piece for me. I think that’s what’s helped me create and keep my momentum going. So even if it’s making massive strides in my business, which I’ve done, and then there’s other times where I just need to just put one foot in front of the other. But keeping that momentum going, whether it’s showing up on a call — I remember when I first started the collective almost a year ago, I have little post, it’s all over my desk that had little Aimee and Molly quotes on there that was like, what does my body need right now and remember, like time management, and also energy management, things like that. But now I don’t even have those posts anymore, because it’s so engrained in my head. But that keeps that momentum going. Whether like I said, it’s big strides, or it’s just putting one foot in front of the other just so that I can continue togrow. 

Molly Claire: Yeah. Love it. Okay, I want to know from all of you too, because I know you all have different levels of extrovert introvert, big group, small groups, because some people really enjoy a large group, some people enjoy a more intimate experience. And that’s a question that people ask a lot about the collective and people do worry about getting lost as well. So I would love to hear from each of you, as an individual, sort of what your experience has been what you like, and what you would say to someone who’s like you extroverted or introverted in terms of what the experience is. So this will be fun to hear from each of you and your unique view on it. So yeah, Penny, go ahead.

Penny Rogers: Yeah, so I’ve always been quite the introverted person. And I would just say to somebody coming into this that, for me, it was the best of both worlds. It’s like, I could kind of hang back if I want to in the group, set calls, the group sessions, I could kind of hang back and listen and kind of warm up to things and also, it gave me this safe space to where, when I got ready when I wanted to challenge myself to speak up, when I wanted to enrich my experience in the collective that I had the freedom to do that I felt safe to do that. 


And so I would say, come in, it’s not like, you’re going to have all of this thrust on you and you’re going to be in this spotlight, if you’re more introverted, that you do have that opportunity to kind of warm up to it. And the beautiful thing is to move forward and beyond that into really kind of diving in and, and becoming a part of it, not just that the observer. And so I just really appreciate that, that there’s that encouragement to participate, to speak up to ask questions. But also there’s days you just want to listen, and that’s okay, too.

Molly Claire: Yeah, almost like choice.Like, I’m nothing’s being thrust upon me. But I’m also not just lost in the sea, like I can be present, I can have a personal experience and I can also kind of hold back. Love it. Crystal, how about you,

Crystal Hansen: I love this so much. I came into everything being a little bit more of an introvert, I kind of described myself as an extroverted introvert. I do really well in small groups. But when it’s a bigger group, I tend to hold back a little bit. And I was actually thinking about this earlier today, I don’t think I signed or raised my hand to do one master your coaching call to participate in it when I was a part of the collective. But it did not hinder the growth and what I learned with those master coaching skills by just listening to other people, but that being said, I have learned to love a big group and a big community so much, because of the knowledge and everything that people bring into it and being able to connect with so many people on so many levels. It’s just been phenomenal. So I feel like for me, it’s given me kind of like Penny Said, a little bit more permission to show up and to have the courage to do so and be a little bit more vulnerable. But also knowing that no matter what, whether it’s a vulnerability day, and I want to raise my hand, or it’s a day that I just want to sit back and listen, the value is tenfold either way.

Molly Claire: Yeah, andAimee, and I have really tried to first of all created a space where it feels like really safe and easy to vocalize in the bigger group. And when I say bigger group, like maximum of 50, and some of those calls and then also building in the small group experience, the small group slacks and the one to one mentor calls so that you all kind of have, it’s like, let me have a taste of all options, right? A little bit bigger, small and intimate, one to one so you can experience at all. And especially well, I want to hear from you, Christine, and I might pick on you about something else too, because the peer coaching groups, I think, is kind of a big deal, too. So tell me, Christine, what’s your experience been with it?

Christine Rucker: I would 100% agree with Penny and crystal that it’s like the best of both worlds because you have access to the large group and you can participate as much as you feel comfortable. But then you have the small group that just seems so much more safe. And for me as a introvert, I’m kind of prone to overthinking. And so sometimes it’s a little bit hard for me to stay in the moment. But in the small group, like you’re actually participating, and it just feels like you’re just talking with a few friends, right? So it’s just so much more natural. And then you get on the group call and you see your friends there. And it just brings that level of safety back to you where it doesn’t feel scary. And I really have surprised myself, I’m offering my thoughts, I’m offering to coach and I never would have thought that I would ever be able to do that. And so that really is a credit, Molly to you and Aimee, in the safety that you guys have created in this group for sure.

Molly Claire: I hope so. And I think but also Christine, because you really like show up in those small groups and connect with those people. And you do the peer coaching program too.

Christine Rucker: Oh my gosh, they are my soul sisters. I love them. I love them. I love them. I love watching the magic of other people coach and I really learned this in the Coaching Collective. There is not a right way to coach. We have our own unique gifts. And I watched this in the large calls, I watched us in the peer coaching, we might ask different questions, we might have a different way. But we all tend to get to the same level of awareness. We all tend to get to the spot that the client needs to go. And so I just think everyone should be participating in the peer coaching. It is beautiful. It is just beautiful. The level of confidence that I received from the constructive feedback, it’s phenomenal. It’s brilliant, really.

Molly Claire: Yeah, and I think that, to your point a couple things that you mentioned, one is I agree when you have those smaller group intimate personal connections in some spaces, it does make the bigger group not feel big because you know these people. The other thing with the peer coaching — I’m kind of I’m hoping that people listening to this are in the Collective and this is like your promo to make sure you’re participating in this. Orthe push people to participate in it, because honestly, Christine, like when I’ve talked with Delphia about it, she said, I think some people are really hesitant to do it, because they are really afraid of coming in and getting criticized or doing it wrong, or feeling like they’re starting to coach and there’s kind of like a no, you need to do it this way kind of thing. I think what I love about that is as you each come, it’s like, this is the specific skill I’m working on. Help me see how I’m doing this well, and to your point, like listening to all of these different ways of coaching and seeing that awareness comes with all of them just like really cements in your brain, the fact that your coaching style can be totally different than everyone else’s. And it’s going to connect with and help the clients that are right for you.

Christine Rucker: Absolutely. And that just, again, adds to the confidence that there’s no, ‘right way’, but you just have to show up and be curious. And the level of coaching that I’ve received in my peer coaching, incredible. It’s just like, wow, what a bonus. And just because I have been coached so much in my peer coaching group, that in itself, creates such a strong connection and bond.

Molly Claire: Yes, totally agree. Okay. Pamela, tell us what about you, introvert extrovert? How has it played out for you?

Pamela Hughes: It depends on the day. Some days, super extroverted, other days very introverted, and that has been supported through and through with the Coaching Collective. When you talk about that value of individuality, I can show up as an extrovert, and I can show up as an introvert and none of it is a problem. And it again, raises that level of comfort and security that you have been looking to cultivate within this community. It allows you to be who you are, and get what you need out of it there. Anytime I’ve wanted to get coached, or have had a question, or needed clarification on something, I’ve always been able to get it. And I think that that’s super important for people to listen because yes, it’s a group coaching program. But yet, you get what you need. You just have to ask for it. That has been very helpful to me. But then on the other days, I just want to consume and see how other people what they’re struggling with in their businesses or in their personal lives and learn from that, learn from being that watcher and observer of everybody else around you, I always get something of value out of it. So whether you’re an extrovert or whether you’re an introvert, you’re going to get exactly what you need whether you’re watching or you’re participating there’s always a place for you to get your questions to get that knowledge to get whatever it is that you’re looking for.

Yeah, I love it. I’m so glad to hear that because that’s what we’ve tried to create like what are the options and ways of how people can get help. Some people are going to want to raise their hand first thing in the larger group call and other people are going to want to have a follow up post on slack. Hey, I didn’t quite get this, can you answer to this? Where they don’t have the spotlight on them or taking it to small groups or whatever it is. So there is a place for you to get help and like you said Pamela too, some days you want to have your camera off and you just want to hold back and be in your own space and sometimes you want to be right in there. So all of it is allowed whatever you need to move your business forward. 

Pamela Hughes: And also the other aspect is the one on one mentoring. That was absolutely incredible because whether you don’t feel like getting coached in that group setting because maybe it’s something a little bit more personal that you don’t want to share with the world or a struggle that you just don’t want to dive into on a group setting that’s fine too. There’s another aspect where you can dive in. And the coaches that we’ve worked with in the mentors are phenomenal, top notch and I have learned so much by just being coached by them that I’ve used so much of what I’ve learned in my own coaching practice with my clients.

Molly Claire: Yes. And I love that you know with Heather and Nikki on the calls with you guys too on those lol calls and everyone really involved. 


I love that you all like know those mentors and have the opportunity to schedule with who you want and, kind of I don’t know have that more of that personal connection to I think it makes such a difference. 

Pamela Hughes: But it also allows us to see some of the struggles they’re dealing with. So it gives you that different perspective of like, oh, this is the coach and they struggle too, we all know that.

Molly Claire: Intellectually, at least, but it doesn’t seem that way.

Pamela Hughes: But to witness it and get to see it, and again, people showing up and being vulnerable and real and authentic, that’s what I’ve gotten so much out of the Coaching Collective is the authenticity, and the lack of judgment, and that safe place just to be who you are.

Molly Claire: Yeah. Oh, I love it. You guys, I keep hearing from you. This just makes my day I’m like, “Okay, we are creating the thing we want to create.”

Pamela Hughes: You absolutely are. 

Molly Claire: Love it and love having all of you here. So okay, I am going to finish this up. But I just thank you, Crystal, Christine, Pamela, Penny, and all of those of you listening will know how to find them, of course will tag them and let you know where they are. But for those of you listening, if you have questions about the Collective, obviously come, put in your application and talk with our team about it. And I hope that for all of you that you can take away from this, this reminder of the importance of really having the support you need as you build your coaching skills, as you build your business, as you are managing your life and all the curveballs that are thrown at you. Because truly relying on other people and being connected with people where there’s this shared sense of understanding and respect and desire to support one another is such a big deal. So thank you, everyone, for being here with us today and helping everyone get this insight into community. 

Pamela Hughes: Thanks so much for having me. 

Penny Rogers: Thank you Molly.

Christine Rucker: Thank you.

Crystal Hansen: Thank you so much. 

Molly Claire: All right. Bye, everyone.

Thanks for listening to the Masterful Coach Podcast. You can check out www.thecoachingcollective.comfor info about the ultimate program for coaches building a business. To find out more about Molly, you can visit www.mollyclaire.com.