Giving your clients some quick and easy wins to encourage them, knowing how and when to go deeper, making things understandable and digestible – these are skills we learn. As a coach, you have the power to enact amazing change but clients need to be ready for what you have to offer and be able to understand it. So you need to tune into the right time and tactics.
To discuss all this, I interviewed Corinne Crabtree, a master coach, the CEO and founder of No BS Weightloss, and host of the Losing 100 Pounds with Corinne podcast. Corinne has a passion for helping women change generational health and wealth issues. She and I talk about the art and joy of increasing our coaching mastery while showing women that there isn’t anything wrong with them and that they can change their lives. Corinne shares blending mindset with tactics, quick wins to combat fear and anxiety, breaking coach-speak, talking like a normal person, and so much more.
“We have to get back to basic questions. Like, start with a question that your client can understand. And I spend a lot of time breaking coach-speak… First level mastery is learning how to talk like a normal person.” – Corinne Crabtree
Corinne is a Master Certified Weight and Life Coach with a mission to help every woman break generational curses in order to improve their personal health and wealth. She lost 100lbs 15 years ago and ever since, she has dedicated her life to teaching women how to do the same.
Corinne is one of the leading voices in the weightloss and business industries .She’s the host of the wildly successful podcast, Losing 100 Pounds with Corinne, which has been downloaded over 50 million times in 160 countries. Over 1 million women have taken her free weightloss course and Corinne now serves over 14,000 paid members in the No BS Weightloss Program.
After being a featured expert at The Life Coach School and having her business rank #1052 in the Inc. 5000 Fastest Growing Businesses of 2022, Corinne founded the No BS Business Women’s Membership. The program provides online entrepreneurs with simple frameworks, tools, and the focus they need to take action and build the business of their dreams.
In addition,Corinne offers advanced weightloss life coach training for coaches, dietitians and medical professionals who want to improve their clients’ weightloss outcomes. You can catch her on Facebook and Instagram talking shit about the diet and online marketing industries. Her greatest passion is helping women get rid of their old shitty thoughts by using self-love to never quit on themselves again.
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Welcome to the Masterful Coach Podcast with Molly Claire, where coaches learn skill mastery, business mastery, and life mastery at a whole new level. If you are serious about creating a meaningful coaching business that makes a difference, you are in the right place. And now your host, master life and business coach, Molly Claire.
Molly Claire: Hey coaches, I have an amazing treat for you today. My friend and colleague Corinnene Crabtree is on the podcast. Corinne is an eight-figure business builder and she is a master coach. She specializes in weight loss. She’s built her business, No BS Weight Loss, and she is phenomenal.
One of the things that I absolutely love about Corinne, is how genuine she is. She is so authentic and so driven to help women, and I just love and adore that about her. As you all know, on the podcast this month, I am focused 100% on coaching skill mastery, and I thought, what better time to have Corrine come in and have a great conversation, as she and I have been in this coaching world for years, and have experienced working with so many coaches as well, to really help you to know and understand some of the common mistakes that we see, and really help you have a more expanded view so you can be more successful in your coaching.
Before we dive into this episode, I am also offering those 30 days of coaching Mastery skill tips on Instagram. So if you haven’t been following along, make sure to go to Molly Claire coaching on Instagram and find me there. Follow those tips, are 90 seconds or less coaches. Let’s do it. Let’s uplevel and expand your coaching skills together. All right. Here we go. Let’s dive into this interview with the amazing Corrine Crabtree.
All right. I am so excited to have you today. Corrine, welcome to the podcast.
Corinne Crabtree: Well, thank you. We have, we have known each other for a long time.
Molly Claire: I know. I was thinking that as I was preparing for this interview with you and thinking, I remember the first time I saw you, it was my second life coach school mastermind, and you presented, and there you were on stage.
Because you shared your story. I’m sure you remember this. And I just remember thinking, “Who is this woman who just like came in, got certified and is just like owning the stage like a boss?” Like, you just have such an incredible energy and I still remember seeing you there. And then you know we’ve done some things here and there along the way.
So anyway, you’re amazing and I’m so honored to share you with my listeners.
Corinne Crabtree: Well I’m excited to be here cuz I like, I’ve been a big supporter of everything you do and we just known each other for so long now, so it’s really cool.
Molly Claire: I know, it is. And you know what else I was thinking is so fun? Is I think you and I have drastically different coaching styles probably.
Corinne Crabtree: Oh yeah. .
Molly Claire: Which I think is so great because, and I know you have your advanced certification that you’re doing, which is, you know, your niche and I’ve got one as well. And one of the things that I love is, I think it’s so great to teach, you know, teach people how to coach well and really encourage your own style, right?
Because like the people that wanna work with me, they might not wanna work with you. And people that are dying to work with you might be like, mm, no. So there’s room for all of it.
Corinne Crabtree: I agree. Like, I think that’s one of the most important things. I think that especially all of us, I like, I consider like me and you like in leadership positions in our coaching sphere. Is that we really encourage the new coaches to figure out who they’re gonna be early on.
Molly Claire: Yes.
Corinne Crabtree: I watch so many of them try to replicate and emulate and just talk like everyone else. And the world just doesn’t need a bunch of the same coaches. You just need everybody to be finding their own voice and that just takes time talking a lot.
Molly Claire: Yes. Yes. And if I’m trying to be like you, let’s face it, it’s never gonna work. I am never going to coach the way you do well because it’s not me, right?
Corinne Crabtree: Yeah.
Molly Claire: So, so I really love that. I love this idea that as coaches, my listeners as you’re listening, I think it’s valuable to learn a tool, learn a skill, learn something, and really focus on taking it in as the way it’s taught or presented, and then how do you bring you to it, you know, finding that way where they come together.
So, yeah, I think this, this episode’s a great plug for that in general.
Corinne Crabtree: Well, one of the things I was thinking about when you were just talking about that is like, you know, like how do they do that? One of the things that I was actually thinking about this in the shower this morning, I dunno if you do this, but I was listening to the like hundredth time, The Big Leap. I’ve listened to it several times and I swear every time I hear it, like, I listen to a different chapter a little differently than I did the last time, or,
Molly Claire: Yes. Yeah.
Corinne Crabtree: Like I’ll listen to a chapter and be like, “Did I even listen to that one last time? Wait, it’s so new.” But when I’m hearing things, a lot of times I will think of like a specific client.
And then I’ll catch myself practicing questions I would now ask, like when I’m consuming some content and stuff. And I think that that’s been really helpful for me on figuring out just how to be like a better coach, how to ask better questions.
It’s like in live time, taking in information and it’s kinda, it’s almost like you’re using your brain in two ways. Like, I’m hearing this and now I’m visualizing this person and I’m roleplaying in my mind, “Ooh, I would ask this now”, or, “Ooh, I would go down this road now”.
Molly Claire: Yes, yes. Yeah. I love that. And I love that you shared that because I really, on this episode today, I want to, of course, we’re focusing on coaching mastery and skill, and that’s one thing that, as different as our coaching styles are someplace I feel like- you’re, you’re one of the most genuine people that I have ever worked with. I know you care so much about the people that you work with, and I feel that same way.
And one thing that I love about you is how dedicated you are to really always improving and growing and expanding. I love that and I actually would love for you to share, and I of course did an intro right before we started talking so people know about you in general, but I would love for you to just share from your voice, what you do, and why you love it in your business?
Corinne Crabtree: Well, so I do several different things, which is always amazing to me because I grew up thinking I was not gonna do several different things. I grew up with a mom who was single and I remember her telling me all the time, like, the best thing that could ever happen to me was to just find a stable job and a good man to take care of me. And to her, that was like, you have arrived.
Molly Claire: Right? That is it.
Corinne Crabtree: Yeah. Luckily I did, well, I went through one bum marriage first and then had to get rid of that. Right outta high school, I eloped with this guy. And then I did find a good man who was stable and all this other stuff. But it wasn’t very long before I realized like I wanted more out of my life. Like I was never gonna be a stay-at-home mom. I was one. I was so unfulfilled with it. And so that’s how I started my weight loss business.
Then I branched out last year into a business membership, because after 15 years over on the weight loss side, I just got a passion for helping other people build a business when they just feel like they have no right or no education or no background that says they can do it.
The other thing that we’re doing is we’re also opening a restaurant, my husband and I.
Molly Claire: You are? Oh my gosh. How is that?
Corinne Crabtree: Oh gosh. We started when we moved to this small town in Nolansville, Tennessee. We started going to this one little restaurant on our date nights and we’ve been doing it for three years and we started, we just kind of noticed that it could be more. Like it needed to be a sports bar. And we would like dream about like, well, if we were gonna change it, what would we do?
Just so everybody knows, my husband and I both collectively have almost 40 years of restaurant experience between the two of us. That was like both of our backgrounds. So it’s not like we’re going in not knowing what we’re doing.
And the reason why I do like all the different things is one, I’ve always loved a good challenge. That’s just kind of in my nature.
Molly Claire: Oh yeah, yeah.
Corinne Crabtree: But my passion is really helping, specifically women, change generational health and wealth curses. And I thought about that, like, that was not something I knew that I was doing until late last year. And I spent some real time thinking about what is important to me. Like what’s going to- you know, I already make a lot of money, but what’s going to drive me to wanna get up every day and still plug in and still write scripts and copy and stuff.
Because I could literally just put things on autopilot and it was that. That was the thing that changed everything for me. It was like, other women deserve opportunities to be introduced to their potential. And I wanna help facilitate that.
Even in our restaurant, like the staff is so good. And we’re buying it, one of the primary reasons, is because there’s a group of about 30 year old people that already sort of run the restaurant and they don’t have a big, bright future ahead of them. And we wanna come in, fix it, and sell it back to ’em, you know?
Molly Claire: Amazing. That is amazing. That’s cool. I wanna stay up to date on how that goes. So I’m gonna be checking in with you on that.
Corinne Crabtree: Oh yeah. If you ever come to Nashville, come have a drink.
Molly Claire: I know. I need to!
Corinne Crabtree: Of soda,
Molly Claire: Or water. Whatever you drink, Molly.
Okay, so I, and I wanna just pause here and you know, it’s so inspiring to hear you say that, and for my listeners, as you’re listening and hearing that big why that Corinne has, I guarantee that that is also comes through in how and why you coach people well. Because you care so much about them. Right?
You can have all the skills in the world, you can have that ability, but I think really caring about helping your clients move past that thing. Like for me, definitely, I feel very similar in that I wanna help women to really see and believe that more is possible for them. And to see that it’s that nothing is inherently wrong with them.
It’s not like there’s something in them that is the reason they can’t be as good as that woman over there or do the thing that that person can do. And I think it’s so easy to get stuck there. And so for sure, I think all of you listening, thinking about and realizing what is it that you really care about helping people to change. And as you can have that drive your why, I think it also lends itself to greater mastery in your coaching cuz it’s, you can’t help but not help people.
Corinne Crabtree: Right.
Molly Claire: Yeah.
Corinne Crabtree: One thing you said that like stands out to me and I think this is important, for years I literally thought there were things wrong with me. It held me back in a lot of ways. But I will say, I’ve also been able to kind of push through like, all right, well I kind of know what somebody who is successful is gonna be doing. So I was like one of those people who could like do even with crappy thoughts.
Molly Claire: Yeah. Yeah.
Corinne Crabtree: But it took me a long time to realize there really wasn’t anything wrong with me. There were things I just didn’t know. Like, I think for an entrepreneur especially, that moment when it kind of clicks. This is not a personal issue.
Cuz I have a big, like, especially on the business side, I have a big passion for, like- we’ve got to blend in the coaching world, mindset with tactics. I’m sure your listeners are a lot of LCS people, just like a lot of mine are LCS people. The T and the A lines are very important. You can’t ignore either one. They have to work together.
And so I think for all of us that are kind of, you know, blazing the trails or, wanting to help the newer coaches, we need to remember, it’s not just about belief. Sometimes people just don’t know things. And use coaching against themselves and sit there and be like, “It must be my belief. I’m fundamentally doing something wrong.”
And I’m like, no. If you’re new, there are gonna be a lot of things you don’t know. And yeah, you’re gonna have to learn them. That doesn’t make you wrong.
Molly Claire: Exactly. It’s so true, right? It’s like we learn. First we use coaching for ourselves, it opens things up and then we’re like, “Oh, I must not be believing enough. I need to believe harder. I need to believe more often.”
And, and it’s like, and that’s where I think it’s so useful as we work on our coaching skills to really expand our view of them. And not only, okay, definitely to what you were saying. We need the skills, we need the tactics, we need the tangible things. And then guess what? The mindset supports us in doing that, right?
And I actually don’t think that the focus on the thoughts was ever intended to delete the need for working on the skill or knowledge gaps. It was always, I think, intended to say, “Yes, you can have those things and do those things, but if you have a crappy mindset, it’s not gonna work.”
And then I think the opposite is also true. Yes, you can have all those amazing thoughts and if you don’t know the nitty gritty of how you might actually do this, it’s not gonna get you that far. Right?
Corinne Crabtree: Amen. Like that is exactly it. Because I always am like talking about how the statment ‘you don’t need to know the how’ kind of just got warped a little bit. It was like not intended to be that. And it really does like, so in weight loss terms, cause every woman can understand a weight loss term.
Molly Claire: Right.
Corinne Crabtree: It’s like, I’ve watched people try to lose weight saying things like, you’re so lazy, you’re gonna have to go to the gym or weighing in or eating foods and saying things like, you know, you’re lucky this time you didn’t overeat, but next time you better be careful. And so they’re trying to lose weight from all this anxiety and this fear and all this other stuff
Molly Claire: And self-hatred.
Corinne Crabtree: Yes. And they may be able to lose some weight, but the problem becomes they can’t keep it off because so many of us think that either building a business or losing weight, we’re gonna be happy when we reach a certain destination.
Molly Claire: Yeah.
Corinne Crabtree: If you only trained yourself with fear, anxiety, and worry then you get to your end point and you’re like, “Okay, I hope I can keep my weight off. I hope I don’t screw this up. I better get lucky this month.” And clients come to me, and so then you’re living in your hard earned success in fear and anxiety.
Molly Claire: Exactly.
Corinne Crabtree: And it’s like you never get to feel good. You’ll go back like what is the point? If you’re never gonna feel good, it’s like, why am I gonna work this hard if all I’m ever gonna do is feel like crap?
Molly Claire: Yep. You’re just, you’re just having the fear, anxiety, and worry about a new situation in your life.
Corinne Crabtree: Yeah. Yeah. And I think that’s why, like with coaches, it’s really important for us to blend those two things together. It’s like, you do need skills and yes, you’re probably gonna need some frameworks. You’re gonna need these things. Yes, they’re not plug in place, but they are good basics. But we have to work on how you apply them with your mind. That is an essential.
Molly Claire: Yes. Totally. And as you were talking, cuz one of the things that, and you may not use these exact words, but I’m certain you do this as well with your coaching and your training for training weight loss coaches is, I like to help my coaches understand how they can do the deep and meaningful work with their clients, and they can also do these practical, tangible, quick win things at the same time.
Because I think too often we think it’s one or the other and, and especially with new coaches, they’re like, oh no, we don’t need to look at any of these tangible things. We just need to dive deep into your psyche. And it’s like, first of all, that’s probably not going to work for many people. And sometimes people don’t even want that.
And so I think it’s really important that we understand what are the ways that I give some quick wins? I have some like solution-focused coaching. I’m moving this client forward, and at the same time I’m making space for that internal growth because I think when they can go hand in, your client will feel the success every step of the way, in my opinion.
Corinne Crabtree: Yeah, like one of the things that we teach inside our advanced certification is all about doable beliefs. Majority of the people who are gonna walk in off the street when it comes to weight loss, are terrified of their brain. And we have to start with real easy wins.
Like, I’m always telling my clients, this is not a Freud thing, seriously. Cause they get so paranoid that they’re gonna unearth something in their psyche that like, now this proves exactly how broken I am. It’s like, they get so fearful about it. So I think it’s really important as we’re teaching coaches, it’s like there are varying degrees of basically how far you go with clients and you have to learn, how do we give them easy wins first? How do we get them to where they feel like, okay, it’s safe to dig around in my brain.
Because I think a lot of us coaches, the vast majority of people who are gonna come to us, don’t feel that safe. It’s the rare unicorn that’s gonna come to you who’s like, “Oh my gosh, I am a self-development diva and I am just ready to dig in. Like just lay me out on a rock and expose me.”
Most of them are like, are terrified of that. And as coaches, I think, we think we gotta go there. I’m like,
Molly Claire: Yes, we think we’re supposed to go there. And we think if you’re a good coach, we’ll be able to go there right away. But, Actually, you wanna meet your client where they are and give them what they need.
Corinne Crabtree: Exactly.
Molly Claire: And I think, you know, as you were talking, not only is it that like they’re not ready, they don’t even know what we’re talking about, right? Especially when I work with coaches who’ve worked with other coaches, and their colleagues, and they’re so comfortable coaching other coaches, but it’s like, it is a whole different world when you’re talking to people that have no idea what you’re talking about, right?
And so there’s that, right? Like where is your client now? What is going to help your client to get a quick win now to move forward? And maybe start opening the door to you also showing them more, because I think when you can hold space for both of those with the client, it is the most powerful experience for sure.
Corinne Crabtree: I think so too. I think it’s like when we-, I know that you’re focusing on like coaching masteries. When I’m working with our weight loss coaches the first thing that I tell ’em is we have to get back to basic questions. Start with a question that your client can understand.
And I spend a lot of time breaking coach speak. You know, there’s talking to other coaches. I love when coaches coach each other cuz they’re all like, no T line. And what result does that create? And then when you get like somebody off the street, they’re like, result?
Molly Claire: Whatcha are you talking about? I know, right?
Corinne Crabtree: It’s almost like when you go through your basic training, you learn a lot of great, amazing stuff.
Molly Claire: Totally.
Corinne Crabtree: You don’t really- one of the things that I realized that like, first level mastery is learning how to talk like a normal person.
Molly Claire: It’s true. And in marketing, by the way, let’s just make a quick plug for that. It’s like, do not sell your clients with these words that they don’t understand about some deep process that means nothing to them.
Corinne Crabtree: Nothing. I know. One of the things that we make our certification people do. I’m like, “Rewrite that in a way my mother could understand it.” I like, what are you even- I’m like looking at him like, “Now, I’m a master level coach and I’m really having to figure out what you just said.”
Molly Claire: I know. It’s like when we’re working with our coaches, we’re like, okay, think about, like, get inside your client’s head. What are the thoughts running through their head right now? And not the thoughts they’re gonna have after they’ve worked with you. Because sometimes our clients have more awareness at the end.
And so a big mistake I see is coaches thinking, “Oh, well this is my client’s words”, but that’s your client’s words at the end of their journey, not when they’re trying to figure out who in the world can solve this problem right in front of them.
Corinne Crabtree: Yes, yes, yes.
Molly Claire: I think that’s for,
Corinne Crabtree: Oh, go ahead. You go ahead.
Molly Claire: No, I, well, I was just-
Corinne Crabtree: I could talk about this all day.
Molly Claire: I know, right? We’re gonna have to watch the time so we don’t stand here too long. Okay. I wanna grab this. So this is like, I have this medicine weighted ball in my office. And I actually, I have it in here because one of the coaching mastery tips I’m gonna talk about is like us doing that heavy lifting for our client, right?
And when you’re talking about like the coaches and like the T line and the A line. I think a lot of coaches, even when we’re working with like normal people off the street, we wanna teach them these tools and have them help us, like, oh, help me coach you, help me build this model. And we want them to answer questions the right way using coach speak.
And so it just made me think of that. It’s a different skill and s, this is for all of you listening, you make sure you’re coaching plenty of people who have no idea what you’re talking about. Because coaching those people and not just your colleagues is how you’re gonna learn how to speak to them.
Corinne Crabtree: A hundred percent. I think one of the- when you’re talking about the story of like, who is this person who just came on stage? I didn’t have a coaching background when I came to LCS. In fact, I probably did diddly squat in the self-development world. I had not read all the books y’all read. I read personal training books, like everything. I was listening to exercise, podcasts and stuff like that. But I had so many reps in-
I had a forum with, about 50 to 100 people who talked about weight loss all day, every day. And I swear some of them chicks. I’m like, did y’all even have a job back then? Because we were on the computer all day. But yeah, we had talked to them so much. I was kind of coaching before I knew I was coaching. I was just really good at- now I probably wasn’t good at asking questions, but I was definitely really good at seeing what the problem was and at least giving them a new perspective.
And because I didn’t have all of that background and experience, I think it was a lot easier for me to be like, I know my person. I have read thousands of entries now of just market research of listening to what a real human says about their problem and I think that’s important for coaches.
One of things you say that I just love and I’ve never thought to tell coaches this, but I’m going to now, which is, stop coaching your coach friends for a while. Like it’s fine if you wanna like trade to get some help and stuff, that’s one thing, but that can’t, like if you think about growing your business, that can’t be the only people you coach. They understand it too much. And so you don’t really learn how to teach the concepts in a digestible way.
Because one of the things that I teach in my advance certification is, you know, when you’re a coach, like we still have to teach. Especially if you’re gonna do group coaching, it’s like there is a blend of coaching someone live, asking questions, and then finding a moment where now you’re going to teach everyone what this means and what this means to you.
And I think that that only will happen if you’re talking to people who are actually in your niche, not with coaches who already get all the concepts. It’s like there’s no impetus to have to teach at that.
Molly Claire: Yes, yes. Well, it’s so interesting because, you know, you and I have been around this world for a while, right. And I certified in 2014 when there were not many colleagues to coach. Like, people in the Life Coach school, now there are so many people available, but I was always coaching people that had no idea about the model or coaching concepts at all.
And so then it was so interesting over the years, like training coaches and training coaches, that it was interesting that over time as there became more coaches, more of my students would be asking me, how do I learn how to coach people that aren’t coaches? And I found it so fascinating because I never had that question because my only experience was with non-coaches.
And so that’s where I just think, exactly, I mean, yes, it can be helpful to have those people, but don’t rely on your colleagues. Because either way, you have to learn how to find people anyway. So you might as well be practicing on the right people.
Corinne Crabtree: Well, that’s such a good point. And when it comes to growing your business, it’s like, if you just keep coaching coaches, you’re not figuring out where are your people hanging out and stuff. You don’t have to always coach people one-to-one in person. I’ve got coaches on my team who, the vast majority of the coaching they do, is written coaching. And people, they’ll tell you, written coaching will make your coaching sharp. Because if especially, we have two modalities that we practice in our advanced certification.
One is a back and forth communication because we have Facebook group. So we always have people in our weight loss groups and business groups laying out a lot of stuff. And so you have to do the back and forth there. But you gotta be succinct because you’re gonna drop a question and you might not see the answer for two days. You have to be tight in how you talk to them.
Then we have like one way written, which is like our ask coaches features, what a lot of coaches understand. And I teach my coaches, you’ve got to help them in a way that does not rely on there being any more communication. If they wanna come back, that’s one thing. But the way that this is set up, you’ve got to sharpen your skills. It’s gotta be effective.
And when you talk about mastery, it’s got to be able to be digestible, for the other 14,000 or however, like, I’ve got 14 K in my membership, the other 14 k need to be able to look at it and also learn something.
Molly Claire: Yeah. Yeah. I love that. It’s true. You keep using that word digestible, right? It’s so funny because you do weight loss, right? . It’s all about food.
Corinne Crabtree: I didn’t even think about that.
Molly Claire: I know. I just thought of that as I said it. Because, yeah, I always think about it as like meeting them where they are. But it’s that same idea. You have to say it in a way that they get it. That’s the bottom line. Say it in a way that they get it and that it reaches them.
And the other thing is, I focus a lot on the emotion work in my advanced certification. Because I think sometimes that can be a big like black mystery that, I mean, let’s face it, a lot of us are still learning. I feel like just over the last, probably two years ago is when I took the deepest dive into the emotion work and have found it to be a really powerful place to access and better utilize the cognitive work too.
So I just think those of you listening, wherever you are right now, commit to continuing to really master and advance your skills and expand them. Because the fun thing about this is there is never a shortage of things to learn. And every, I swear, every year, my coaching skills up level. I’m sure you could say the same.
Corinne Crabtree: Oh, one hundred percent. I was just telling somebody the other day, I think I was talking to my husband actually. I have just gotten sharper. And I took, an advanced certification. All of us coaches were either offering one or were taking one. It’s important for the, like for- when you really wanna be a masterful coach, it would be no different than wanting to be an NBA player or an NFL player.
Molly Claire: Absolutely.
Corinne Crabtree: You are going to put in your reps, you are going to prioritize your skill. Like, there is hardly a day that goes by in my life that I do not listen to some kind of book, some kind of podcast where I’m constantly trying to figure out better ways to coach, better ways to ask questions, but I’m just now embarking on the emotion side. I’m like, two years behind you.
Molly Claire: Get ready, Corrine. Buckle up.
Corinne Crabtree: Oh, I’m telling you. I’m like, I did the deep dive. I’m like, oh, geez. Like, here we are. You know, I, I’m talking to a rock and next thing I know I’m crying with my inner child. So I’m like, whoa. Oh my gosh. As a coach though, I think for the people that we talk to, it’s like every line of that model is important and really understanding them.
And I know for me, the line I saved for last was the feelings line. I know how to identify them, but I never was one to wanna process too much. So that’s where I’m upleveling personally right now, learning more about that and doing more of it for myself too.
Molly Claire: Yeah, yeah. I mean, I spend a lot of time on that in my program because not only, I think we’ve never learned how. Honestly, I don’t think many of us have learned how. There’s a book that I wanna recommend to you. I study this with my clients.
It’s called Running On Empty, and it talks about, have you heard of it? Are you familiar with it? It’s so good. Okay. You have to read this. It’s gonna give you so many insights for your clients too. And those of you listening, you’ve gotta read it because it really talks about how, as kids, if we didn’t have our emotional needs met consistently, which many of us didn’t for varying reasons. We don’t know what to do with them. We don’t understand them, and it’s not something we can like, quote unquote fix when we just- it’s like a language we don’t understand.
And so I know I’m going off on a little tangent there, but I think that, not only those of you listening for you and for your clients, not only do we really wanna process them or know that it’s important. There are, again, skills we have to learn. Because we don’t, why would we know? Who taught us? Nobody.
Corinne Crabtree: Well, and I think that’s such a good point because I know, like in my weight loss group, there is so much shame with my clients around not understanding their feelings or wanting to avoid them and stuff. I’m like, why be ashamed? I always ask them, tell me the class that they taught us where we understood our emotions. And they’re like, well, we didn’t get classes. I’m like, I know. We learned a lot of geometry. We learned- like, I remember deciding between physiology and chemistry, but there was no feelings class. There was no emotions class.
And if we weren’t taught that, why would we ever think that our parents were gonna be able to teach us? We come from no generations of people that ignored it.
Molly Claire: That’s right. And then we’re raising our own kids trying to figure it out. How are we there for them? So there’s just so much good to be learned in it for sure. And I’m also right now, in an advanced certification also where I’m doing the trauma work, advanced trauma. I think it’s a good thing. We set the example, not only hopefully for us, as thought leaders in this space for coaches.
But you coaches listening, you are an example for your clients too. If you are helping them to up-level their own life, we should always be up-leveling, right?
Corinne Crabtree: I agree. Yeah. I think every coach, if the minimum should be self-coaching, I think if you are a coach who is going to have clients and you really wanna have a business, you need to be getting coached on the regular. You can’t just coach other people and think that that’s going to be enough for you.
Molly Claire: A hundred percent.
Corinne Crabtree: I know. That if I had to pinpoint one thing that has grown me the most in the last few years in my own coaching, I’ve had my one coach for four years. It’ll be four years this August. I can chart the ah-has, the insights, I pay attention to the kind of questions she asks me. I pay attention to, like what we do in there. And every week I learn something and I start immediately trying to apply it. I just think we should definitely hone our skills with books and courses and things like that. But having-
Molly Claire: It’s not the same.
Corinne Crabtree: It’s not the same when somebody else is looking at your brain. It just isn’t. And I think it grows your own coaching. It’s like, I personally have just benefited from it. But my coaching has really benefited from it.
Molly Claire: A hundred percent.
Corinne Crabtree: I put my brain to work on, I want this to be in an investment, not only in my brain, but I also want it to be an investment in my coaching too.
Molly Claire: Yeah, yeah, absolutely. I agree and I think of- because when I think about the personal work I’ve done – I actually think that’s the personal work I’ve done with different coaches, the emotion work that I’ve done, the cognitive, all the different things – having that experience is, I would say, my greatest asset as a coach is having done it myself, for sure.
Okay. Well, I know we’re getting to the end. I wanna just wrap this up, but what advice would you give to a coach that’s here listening that wants to improve their skills in any way? You can give one, you can give three, whatever you wanna say, words of wisdom from you.
Corinne Crabtree: First I would probably, the very first thing I would do is align with people that, especially in the beginning, just align with coaches that speak to you. I have really been working a lot on trusting my gut. I’ve always had a strong gut. I didn’t realize how much of my life I doubted my gut and my intuition, and I had to repair the relationship with it a little bit. Even though it’s never steered me wrong. I’m just like, yeah. I dunno how the relationship got warped over the years, but it sure did.
The first thing is to grow your skills. It’s really to align with coaches. Just make it easy for yourself. So as coaches, think about your coach in the C line, you wanna coach that it will be very easy for you to trust, for you to have lush thoughts about like, don’t get up under people that already feel like out of alignment or skeezy or anything like that. Dont just be throwing your money away. So that would be my first thing.
And I think the only other piece of advice I would give to advance your coaching skills is listen to a lot of books and podcasts. If I, honestly, I know for me, people just know me as a voracious consumer of content. I listen to tons of things. And I think a lot of coaches don’t because they’re like, “Well, if I can’t sit down and take notes” or “if I can’t just…” it’s almost like they wanna create this perfected environment. My goal is avalanche of information.
And, I know that if something really resonates, I’m probably gonna remember it enough to teach it. And if I can’t remember. I carry my phone everywhere. I just type in the notes app so often. I’ll just type in little things I hear. And then when I go back, I’m either gonna remember what it was and if I don’t, I just delete it.
I have the most imperfect system when it comes to it, but I think that that’s what’s helped me. I don’t have a lot of expectation other than I’m gonna listen to a lot of crap, and in a lot of different ways, and sometimes two and three times. And eventually my brain is gonna pick out exactly what it needs. And that’s how I up-level a lot.
Molly Claire: Yeah. Well, I love it and especially, I think that what you said really to me captures who you are and how you grow and succeed in every area. Like even, I know with your weight loss stuff, it’s like, okay, let’s forget this super strict, like ‘I can’t walk too far to the right or too far to the left’, or you know, have one more Cheeto or whatever.
It really is like taking those steps forward. And dropping perfectionism. And that’s, I think, a huge key to success that you emulate, in my opinion.
Corinne Crabtree: Thank you.
Molly Claire: I love it.
Corinne Crabtree: I try not to do any- I don’t even know if I have perfectionistic bone in my body. Every now and then I’ll see like get a whiff of it or a hint of it, you know? But like, 99% of the time, I’m just like, woo, let’s just try it.
Molly Claire: Let’s just go for it. Which I think is really, I think it’s a good attribute to have. I think it helps us move forward and keeps us from getting stuck.
Well, this is amazing. This is so fun. And I’ll just say that all of you, if you don’t follow Corrine, definitely follow her. And I know she’s gonna tell you more about how you can connect with her, but I just think Corrine is such a powerful example of someone who leads with authenticity and you are extremely determined in what you wanna create and you go after it. So thank you for your awesome example and inspiration.
Corinne Crabtree: Well, thank you. I love being here.
Molly Claire: Awesome. All right. Yes. Tell them where can the people find you.
Corinne Crabtree: Oh, so if you do wanna do- I do have an advanced certification come out for weight loss coaches. We’re gonna study all the content that I have created. Plus, we are gonna uplevel your coaching skills. I think that, when it comes to weight loss, there’s some distinct skills that differentiate.
Like we were talking a little bit earlier, our clients are very unsafe. So we have to really learn how to make it safe to explore things. So that’s at theweightlossuniversity.com. You can get on the wait list, we’ll send you out the information. The applications are gonna start April 1st, but our program won’t even start until June. We’re jumping on it a little early this year. And that we’re all ready to go.
And then if you just want some information about the, like, say you just wanna lose some weight or whatever, just listen to my podcast Losing 100 pounds with Corrine. If you sign up for my free course, you’ll hear it in the podcast. You’ll get into my world. Trust me, I’m really good at emailing you. I won’t let you forget me.
Molly Claire: And you have great emails, so it’s worth it. It’s good. There you go. Awesome. Thank you so much, Corinne, for being here. This has been amazing. Thank you.
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